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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:15

Arstotzka is not like other countries, the only one that can control sandbox planets are the imperial government. Even if private companies are premiumly allowed, they have to ask for permission from the government.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by Ace_TFC » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:15

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... I got more planets that it should be allowed but natives live in peace and are not Threatened by us, we only trade with them and assure their military safety, other planets where we live are only terraformed planets...
And about our planets, we wont limit thoses since the agreement of atlantean space territories was Approved By some natives, it means that we can colonise many planets but if natives dont agree our presence, we cant colonise it. Well, there are many other things.

I agree about private companies, they are a global threat.
Then if Atlantean space territories are not limited then shouldn't all countries have as well? It would be somewhat unfair that one country gets infinite access to planets (although, most likely not) and others are limited. Laws on protecting natives should be really addressed soon though.

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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:16

Natives are as equal as atlantean and you may notice many different specie living in UHAE.
I think private companies shouldnt own nuclears capabilities... just imagine if a company rebelled against Svostine or arstotzka and nuke them.
And how can arstotzka government allow to nuke natives?
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by Ace_TFC » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:18

RyanVJ wrote:
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And isnt it alarming that private companies have military capabilities and they are not bound by any international treaty? We should really control them.
Well it would be not alarming if private companies have military capabilities unless they are private military companies. It wouldn't be alarming if the private company is associated with the state.
But most of them have nuclear capabilities, i mean no private entity should have weapons of mass destruction.
Well we cannot do anything if the company only operates within the country. International laws should only be ratified and signed by the states so we cannot do anything but watch.

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Re: International Space Convention

Post by Ace_TFC » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20

THEMAX wrote:
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Natives are as equal as atlantean and you may notice many different specie living in UHAE.
I think private companies shouldnt own nuclears capabilities... just imagine if a company rebelled against Svostine or arstotzka and nuke them.
And how can arstotzka government allow to nuke natives?
1.) Natives should have the same human rights laws as us
2.) We cannot do anything if the company only operates within the country.
3.) I completely agree with you there

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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20

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Natives are as equal as atlantean and you may notice many different specie living in UHAE.
I think private companies shouldnt own nuclears capabilities... just imagine if a company rebelled against Svostine or Arstotzka and nuke them.
And how can Arstotzka government allow to nuke natives?
Those natives can't do peace, they liked genocide, so we will always attack them if they're in sight. And the imperial government are always allowed to use it.

And don't forget to use the big "A" if you want to type Arstotzka.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:22

Ace_TFC wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:15
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... I got more planets that it should be allowed but natives live in peace and are not Threatened by us, we only trade with them and assure their military safety, other planets where we live are only terraformed planets...
And about our planets, we wont limit thoses since the agreement of atlantean space territories was Approved By some natives, it means that we can colonise many planets but if natives dont agree our presence, we cant colonise it. Well, there are many other things.

I agree about private companies, they are a global threat.
Then if Atlantean space territories are not limited then shouldn't all countries have as well? It would be somewhat unfair that one country gets infinite access to planets (although, most likely not) and others are limited. Laws on protecting natives should be really addressed soon though.
You recently started space colonisation, you have no idea of threat you can meet, UHAE space territories are limited by the galactic assembly and all territories ( except our main solar system ) are free with their politic, their economy , they just have to respect UHAE laws , talk at least 2 atlantean national language, use atlantean currency and are under UHAE army protection.

Empire : supreme autority ( only autority allowed to own an army , supreme law wich apply to everyone )

Districts : smaller government for smaller area ( usually a group of solar systems with local laws and politicians )

Solariums : very small government wich rule 1 solar system ( they are in charge of local economy and are at least composed by 50 % natives )
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:23

JoshuaIND wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:16
Natives are as equal as atlantean and you may notice many different specie living in UHAE.
I think private companies shouldnt own nuclears capabilities... just imagine if a company rebelled against Svostine or Arstotzka and nuke them.
And how can Arstotzka government allow to nuke natives?
Those natives can't do peace, they liked genocide, so we will always attack them if they're in sight. And the imperial government are always allowed to use it.

And don't forget to use the big "A" if you want to type Arstotzka.
For sure they attack you!!! You invaded them, nuked them and are mining in their territories, who is the real madman there!?
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:25

Would you agree if we came to earth to test mass destruction weapons, kill populations and mine your planets ? No, I think it is the same for natives
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:26

THEMAX wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:23
JoshuaIND wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20
THEMAX wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:16
Natives are as equal as atlantean and you may notice many different specie living in UHAE.
I think private companies shouldnt own nuclears capabilities... just imagine if a company rebelled against Svostine or Arstotzka and nuke them.
And how can Arstotzka government allow to nuke natives?
Those natives can't do peace, they liked genocide, so we will always attack them if they're in sight. And the imperial government are always allowed to use it.

And don't forget to use the big "A" if you want to type Arstotzka.
For sure they attack you!!! You invaded them, nuked them and are mining in their territories, who is the real madman there!?
Chill, dude. They attacked first when we set up our mines, fortunately we carried 30.000 troops with us.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by RyanVJ » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27

Theoearth nations doesnt have the logistics of ruling an entirely different planet lightyears away from us. We are far too different to rule them, culturally, politically, we are different from them. We cant even hold our own planet to peaceful terms. We should not go out and colonizing and claiming planets like there is no tomorrow for we are not entitled to do so.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:28

And you attacked them after, they probably tought you invaded them, you had to step a peacefull contact, show them you were friendly... not kill them...

In fact, if you want to colonise planets, you need to set up a new politic system and change everything you had before, that include companies, they shouldnt have weapons
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:29

THEMAX wrote:
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And you attacked them after, they probably tought you invaded them, you had to step a peacefull contact, show them you were friendly... not kill them
They didn't understand human languages, and we also didn't understand their language.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by RyanVJ » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:29

And with all the mining ops going on, we expect a big devaluation of many resources that are once precious here on earth. It will have a big impact on local industries and mines.
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Re: International Space Convention

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This debate is going intense..
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:31

RyanVJ wrote:
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And with all the mining ops going on, we expect a big devaluation of many resources that are once precious here on earth. It will have a big impact on local industries and mines.
We didn't expect any devaluation at all :lol:
We initiated Economic plan-F and it's alright.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:32

Yes they can , there is an Universal language we use to contact natives wich dont speak same languages as us , and they can understand it. Before setting an colonisation, you should send probes and drones to analyse them and learn about them.

Also... you noticed that everything on earth is losing value???

You cant laught about that, continue any natives killing and we blockade earth.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:34

You not only screwed up billions of lifes but also did same things you did to earth, earth is destroyed because of you, and you are doing same thing again, we wont let you destroy planets anymore.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:35

THEMAX wrote:
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You cant laugh about that, continue any natives killing and we blockade earth.
Why are you forcing me to stop killing natives if they're already dead before you say it? :lol:
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:37

Because same thing will happen on each planets you will conquer... we know you , you dont learn from the past
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by THEMAX » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:38

Probes report that Your mining made Kepler 88c unstable ...
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by RyanVJ » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:54

Ok all mined ores and materials from other planets will not enter the theoearth market for now due to fears of devaluation. Anyways Arstotzka must specifiy its economic plan F and how does it intend to stop the devaluation. The devil is indeed in the details. So detail it nicely.
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by RyanVJ » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:58

Perfect represantation of our current space policiea (its real life news btw)
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Re: International Space Convention

Post by JoshuaIND » Wed Jun 13, 2018 13:00

Our economic plans are secret plans that can be initiated to increase GDP, avoid inflation, stopping devaluation, etc. It can also be used to collapse other country's economy so the target country can't do anything and probably will be bankrupt or for unions or empires: collapses.
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